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Fedor Emelianenko lost to Fabricio Werdum via Submission in the First Round at Strikeforce

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Fedor Emelianenko lost to Fabricio Werdum via Submission in the First Round at Strikeforce

In one of the biggest upsets in the history of the sport, MMA King Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko, lost for the first time to Brazilian Fabricio Werdum in the first round via Submission.

Fedor came into the fight with insane record of 31 wins and only 1 no contest. He stepped into the octagon for the first time since November, where he leveled opponent Bret Rogers in a TKO win.

Brazilian Fabricio "Vai Cavalo" Werdum last fight was against Antonio Silva, where he won by a Unanimous Decision at Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers event back in November. Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Werdum event held at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, California.

The fight started with both fighters having a cautious approach, as Fedor Emelianenko was looking for an opening to land his first strikes on Fabricio Werdum, and he did it. Fedor Landed a powerful right hand on Fabricio Werdum, knocking down the Brazilian to the canvas. Werdum's ground game did not disappoint, as he immediately fired an armbar attempt, which was followed by a vicious textbook triangle choke. With his arm and head trapped by Werdum, Fedor Emelianenko had no choice but to tap out for the first time in his illustrious career. The referee Big John McCarthy stopped this contest at 1:09 minutes of Round 1.

Many people will be looking for explanations after this fight, in light of Fedor's recent retirement talk and involvement in politics. "The Last Emperor" was unable to execute his gameplan, possibly underestimating his opponent's ground skills. Fedor should have known that the main aspect of Fabricio Werdum's gameplan was taking the fight to the ground, and that's the exact place where he followed him after getting the knock down.

It is still unclear if Fabricio Werdum dethroned "The Last Emperor", as Fedor's real test will be in his next fight at Strikeforce. You are only as good as your last fight, and Emelianenko will something prove when he steps back into the Strikeforce cage against Fabricio Werdum (or Alistair Overeem). As for The Demolition Man, the Dutchman has every right to feel disappointed after Fabricio Werdum made it clear that he is not interested in fighting the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion, asking for a rematch against Fedor Emelianenko instead.

Do I think that Fedor was overconfident in this fight? Absolutely. Fedor Emelianenko is now facing his moment of turth: whether he wants to continue fighting and bounce back from his loss, or to retire from the sport and go back to politics. Only time will tell what's next for The Last Emperor. As for Werdum, Vai Cavalo will enjoy his finest hour, and return to the top of the Mixed Martial Arts Heavyweight elite.

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  • Posted By s4m1k
    2 months ago

    GOD DAMN ITTTT
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    Everybody looses man... What ius the big deal? LOL! Fedor will be back.
    Reply »
  • Posted By rickjitsu
    2 months ago

    I ****IN HOPE SO!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By ClosetCasey
    2 months ago

    Why does everyone like Fedor so much? Pulling for Fedor is like gambling in Vegas and rooting for the house. Try to be a little more original people.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rigo
    2 months ago

    Werdum just woke the beast!

    and by the way Fedor being submit dosent make Lesnar legit
    his still going down hard! july 3!
    Reply »
  • Posted By ogobska
    2 months ago

    die hard nuthug
    Reply »
  • Posted By MereDictum
    2 months ago

    River in Egypt
    Reply »
  • Posted By s4m1k
    2 months ago

    indeed sir
    Reply »
  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    Damn.... it was kinda obvious that going to the ground was a mistake. I noticed he only tapped once but he couldn't have got out anyways....

    WERDUM IS F***ING GOOD 0.0
    Reply »
  • Posted By Switters
    2 months ago
    Tough loss
    Werdum seems like a nice guy with great ground skills. Congrats to him on the win. Fedor is my favorite fighter and I hope there is a rematch very soon.
    I feel Fedor could have won tonight if he wouldn't have followed Werdum to the ground, but that's easy to say while I sit on my couch and eat popcorn.
    The thing I like most about Fedor is that he is the first to admit he's beatable and he's respectful to his oppenents. I haven't seen the post fight interview but I would bet my house that Fedor is only respectful in defeat.

    Congrats again to Werdum fans and I hope to see Fedor fight again soon.
    Reply »
  • Posted By PrideFC
    2 months ago

    Everybody loses, Muhammad Ali lost his last 3 fights and is still considered the greatest of all time. Im happy he lost to somebody respectable as a person and a fighter such as Werdum, If Fedor was to lose you would want him to lose to somebody respectful.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    All you people were going more with marciano, using fedors record as the cushion for everything you say about him, so don't compare him to ali.
    Reply »
  • Posted By PrideFC
    2 months ago

    Fedor doesn't look the same as usual, im not sure if age is catching up to him or he is losing motivation for fighting.. its sad that he loses, but i had a gut feeling he would lose some time soon, simply because he has been talking about retirement.
    Reply »
  • Posted By willhammy
    2 months ago

    He just had a hair cut
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago
    PrideFC
    He lost man get over it dont complain dont make excuses for him i dont think he is goin to...
    Reply »
  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    PrideFC
    If Fedor would've played smart instead of going for the kill it'd probably been another story, but that was a TOP 3 ALL-TIME submission, dude. I mean... wow! And everything Werdum said and did in victory was classy - it fit perfectly with Cung's kick and Shamrock's retirement speech.

    Don't let the haters drag you down to their level and destroy what was a brilliant display of pure MARTIAL ARTS at it's finest...
    Reply »
  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    If fedor would have played smart instead of jumping into a Bjj blackbelts guard, he would be anderson silva and you'd all be whining.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    He's not old. It's a bogus excuse.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Switters
    2 months ago
    He looked fine, fast hands and going for the kill
    I thought he looked fine. I feel it may have been the cage that got him caught. If you watch the fight again his back bouces on the cage and that's when Werdum catches his arm just right. A boxing style ring has a different feel, which is where most of his mma fights took place. I know Fedor practices in a cage but i'm not sure how often. Watch the fight again and let me know if you agree.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ogobska
    2 months ago

    @the fedor nuthuggers, they are the one making excuses rather than fedor
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By a222g
    2 months ago

    Dude you got that HA to go all the way off my screen.
    Reply »
  • Posted By japanegro23
    2 months ago

    Me too. Lowkick magic right there.
    Reply »
  • Posted By uRL
    2 months ago

    still shocked on my chair..
    Reply »
  • Posted By Switters
    2 months ago
    Fedor
    Fedor is my favorite MMA fighter because of his actions in and out of the ring. He has a love for his country, fans and he has a passion for fighting. If fans of Fedor stop liking him after this defeat then they were not real fans to begin with.
    Fedor was the first person to say that one day he would loose. He is always the first to say he is not the best, although I feel he is.
    Fedor is a great fighter but also a great person. One MMA match does not change that.
    Congrats Werdum.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Fedor is one my favorite fighters too. It doesn't mean you're not a fan, if you don't buy in to the #1 greatest ever best on Earth stuff.

    I want to see him fight Lesnar, so bad, I think most of his fans do. He should be fighting the best while he still can. He's squandering his gift and his last few prime years.
    Reply »
  • Posted By symmetricon
    2 months ago

    I hope the fedorites don't commit suicide.
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    Ima guna post something similar to what someone said about Fedor almost losing to Rogers the other day. Werdum wasnt even close to losing he got rocked just to carry it to the ground he let fedor go for the kill to set it up he was never even hurt!!!! eat it who ever said fedor was never hurt in the rogers fight bring on the weaks!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shanoo
    2 months ago

    i sure do, alota less tards on this website
    Reply »
  • Posted By SpiderSilva
    2 months ago

    Haha...he deserved it and I love it. Maybe now he sees that hes just another guy in the cage...I'd love to see him come to the UFC because this is what you Fedor fans will have to get used to...it just proves my point, Fedor was the best...4 years ago
    Reply »
  • Posted By Switters
    2 months ago
    sad
    When did Fedor ever say he was the best? He's only a class act who shows respect to his oppenents, his fans and his country.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SpiderSilva
    2 months ago

    Dude...where in that post does it say "fedor says hes the best" learn to read dumbass
    Reply »
  • Posted By BigNog22
    2 months ago

    IS NOT A ROBOT,IS NOT A ROBOT!
    Reply »
  • Posted By HipHopMMA
    2 months ago

    HAHA.... who's the clown now biaaatch
    Reply »
  • Posted By ahhhhhhhhhhhh
    2 months ago

    my house was going ****innnng mental when he locked that triangle haha
    Reply »
  • Posted By Drewfloyd
    2 months ago

    Dana is Laughing his ass off right now as we speakkkk
    Reply »
  • Posted By HipHopMMA
    2 months ago

    where is all the fedor nut huggers?
    Reply »
  • Posted By TheGoocH
    2 months ago

    omg i feel sick after seeing that.. i cant believe it.
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Right here. That was F\/(KING amazing.
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    weird. I was replying to HipHopMMA.
    Reply »
  • Posted By rickjitsu
    2 months ago

    SUCK A DICK MY FRIEND!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago
    @Hip
    AMEN!!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By BigNog22
    2 months ago

    DANA IS SO GONNA TALK SHIT AFTER THIS.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    About? The guy that beat 6 of his past Champions and by another he refused to re-sign? LOL!
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Refused to resign? Take your retard-pills Rane, last dose is wearing off. Werdum got smashed and was run out of the UFC to Strikeforce. He left after being destroyed. He refused to sign a contract, not the other way around. He got completely dominated by JDS, then he beat Fedor.

    Beating up UFC rejects and UFC wash-outs, doesn't mean anything. Now he's losing to UFC rejects.
    Reply »
  • Posted By MereDictum
    2 months ago

    Please stop trying to interject logic when dealing with fedorites. It just makes their brains hurt and you end up wasting time.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SavOnDeck
    2 months ago
    I wanted to see a ko or tko
    Wtf that was weak
    I'm not a fedor fan but I like how he beats the shit out of people
    Reply »
  • Posted By KYMAN
    2 months ago

    HAHAHAHA
    Reply »
  • Posted By s4m1k
    2 months ago

    THE ONE WHO DOESNT FALL, DOESNT STAND UP lol
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    That is a good quote! Did it go over your head?
    Reply »
  • Posted By PrideFC
    2 months ago

    The translator said it wrong... "ONE CANNOT RISE, IF HE DOESNT FALL" thats how its said in english.
    Reply »
  • Posted By s4m1k
    2 months ago

    it is a good quote, did i go over your head? :p
    Reply »
  • Posted By sleepy
    2 months ago

    i NEVER wana ere any1 say hes the best, coz dats a brilliant joke.... lol. hahahahah retire fedor
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    10 years undefeated. Still #1 of all time.
    Reply »
  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    Its just one loss, i think he will improve in his game after this ....
    Fedor possibly broke the world record for having the biggest undefeated streak.
    As for Werdum..... I see him going to UFC after this....
    Reply »
  • Posted By sleepy
    2 months ago

    ah and 2mins da nyt and dats him.dummy..lol
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    HE **** LOST HE ****IN LOST I DONT WANT THAT EVERYONE LOSES BULLSHIT!!! IF BROCK LOSES EVERYONE IS GUNA SAY I TOLD YOU HE SUCKED IF CARWIN LOSES EVERYONE WILL JUMP OFF HIS BANDWAGON FEDOR LOST FEDOR LOST!!!!!!LOLOLOL
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    NO NO NO i dont wana here that wheres the true FEDOR NUTHUGGERS?????? Dont wana hear that "everyone loses" crap!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By nightmonkey17
    2 months ago

    Thank God the Cult of Fedor has been crushed! No more Fedor nuthuggers!
    Reply »
  • Posted By HipHopMMA
    2 months ago

    second that!
    Reply »
  • Posted By Switters
    2 months ago
    Fedor is still my favorite fighter
    Fedor is my favorite MMA fighter because of his actions in and out of the ring. He has a love for his country, fans and he has a passion for fighting. If fans of Fedor stop liking him after this defeat then they were not real fans to begin with.
    Fedor was the first person to say that one day he would loose. He is always the first to say he is not the best, although I feel he is.
    Fedor is a great fighter but also a great person. One MMA match does not change that.
    Congrats Werdum.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Still here and so is Fedor. NO ONE else has had the win streak he's had and no one ever will. BTW, I said that if it went to the ground it was competitive.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    COmpetitive?????????
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    THIRD IT!!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By ogobska
    2 months ago

    3rd that!
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    MUTHA ****IN 4TH THAT SHIT!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago

    Fifth it!!!!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By MarcBR
    2 months ago

    and now fedor? worried about werdum ground game?
    Reply »
  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    I didn't watch the fight but it happens, he still has the best record in MMA. Eventually everyone's gonna lose. God bless both of these fighters, Fedor is still the p4p in my book.
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  • Posted By mmauk
    2 months ago

    Look face the facts yes Fedor is a special fighter but to go from to high level fights in pride to being inactive and mid level fights in Strikeforce have contributed to Fedor's downfall he's only get himself and management to blame
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Exactly. These newbs think it matters if Fedor loses, as if that somehow erases his singular accomplishments in the sport.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Still p4p in your book? Do you not know what p4p means?
    Reply »
  • Posted By mmauk
    2 months ago

    Fedor losing to werdum does matter. according to those that say he's the greatest ever he would have no problems beating brock,carwin etc i keep saying this and i'll say it again yes Fedor was great in pride and is special but to be P4P no.1 surely he has to be facing the best to have that status.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    It doesn't matter to you if he loses. Just like it wouldn't matter if he was fighting Kimbo Slice or Tank Abbot or HMC in his next fight.

    It doesn't erase his accomplishments no, it just sheds light on them.
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    GSP Serra
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    None of those guys have Werdum's BJJ. He has shown dominance over high level wrestlers and none of those guys can stand with him except maybe Carwin and JDS. As I have said in the past, there are guys out there who can beat Fedor on their best day but Fedor can still beat them on his best. Even so, it really doesn't matter. It is like saying that Matt Hughes beating Royce Gracie makes Hughes the more accomplished fighter. No one will ever do what Fedor has done and there is still no one, including Werdum, who Fedor can't beat. If they rematch, Fedor wins. This is like Edgar beating Penn.
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  • Posted By mmauk
    2 months ago

    Penn v Edgar was different. Fedor tapped, BJ got out pointed without really taking any punches it was a weird fight. I personally think that if Fedor fought Brock or Carwin he'd do well to win 1 of those fights i could see brock over powering fedor and carwin putting him to sleep.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago
    @mmauk
    How does GSP V Serra I work for you?
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    Wow nice job Werdum. All you people make me sick. A man lost, you guys are jumping on him. Fedor has a one more fight in america, so lets see a rematch, i'm sure strikeforce will do that. Fedor got caught, got over zealous, it happens to all the best, Anderson Silva anybody? Chances are he needed a loss to motivate him to either retire or continue fighting, he looked a bit extra soft. Whatever he decides Werdum stated that Fedor is the best and was the best.
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  • Posted By MereDictum
    2 months ago

    I'm just hoping all the fedor orgies we've been seeing on this site will finally stop and all the ARM chair "experts" will finally stop telling us peons how we don't know mma like they know mma. Pathetic wannabes.
    Reply »
  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Put yourself on Werdum's shoes...would you be willing to fight for a rematch than fight for the title?with this win that puts him in a title shot..i bet he would go for it...the win was not because he was lucky..it was a perfect planted arm bar...what are your arguments for a rematch?
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Werdum asked for one.
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    Fedor got caught, plain and simple. Happen to Brock, GSP, Anderson, Shogun. He was very humble in his loss, why people can't appreciate that he didn't have any excuses took it and he's going to move on. He said it himself he'll probably lose one of these days. Just wasn't his night. We'll see the rematch
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  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    Because people think we are fans of Fedor because of his record, and as soon as they see a loss they want to point and say ha ha.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    No one but a person who trains MMA truely knows MMA, I don't train it and I don't claim to know everything about it or even a little.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    I respect the man. i respect ANY and EVERY fighter in mma cause they go out every fight and put their heart into something that only a true man/woman would do. Im sorry for him because he lost and now he will have to figure out whats next. I respect the fact he didnt complain and he kept his humility but the people who do the complaining and bragging for Fedor are the ones i think need to go find a blues clue or something.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shippy4tw
    2 months ago

    P4P best fighter in the world just lost to FABRICIO VERDUM! Hopefully everyone will realize how unbelievably over-rated this guy is. One more fight with Strike-farce and then we'll never see him again.
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    people can't make mistakes in your world?
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shippy4tw
    2 months ago

    oh they can, but if they are the best at what they do, they dont get beat by worthless has-beens like Werdum.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Predatory
    2 months ago

    Or Mir?
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shippy4tw
    2 months ago

    1. Mir's not a has been and 2. Brock's an over-rated gorilla like fedor
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Idiotic comparison. Mir is a "has-been", because the rest of the competition has gotten better. Mir has improved, and has been in the best shape of his life. He loses because the other fighters are better. Also, it was the Ref that took that fight, not Mir. Unless you claim the stoppage was legit, in which case you're a liar.

    Who did Fedor fight in his first fight? Since you like to make silly nonsense comparisons? Who were his first 3 opponents? Nobody can name them. They can all name Lesnar's though.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Predatory
    2 months ago

    Because it was not on PPV and there were no message board kiddies lathering up Dana's nuts back then? Oh and Mir beat who? *crickets*
    Mir is a sham, Brock is a sham, Carwin hasn't fought anyone (just like Lesnar). Dana is keeping his guys in a bubble from real competition like he does with GSP and BJ Penn...OOPS! LMAO. If Dana really cared about the sport, he would put GSP and Silva together, but he won't. Dana's a fraud. $ $ for eyes, no care for the sport.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Fedornuthugger
    2 months ago

    If dana cared about the sport, he'd put two champions from different weight classes together...AGAIN! And he'd stop keeping GSP from fighting real competition, but it's cool when fedor does it because...look at his record!
    Reply »
  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Werdum isn't a has been either. He lost to JDS and has the skill to avenge it if he can get it to the ground.
    Reply »
  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    @Shippy4tw
    At least Werdum beat Vera...
    Reply »
  • Posted By Predatory
    2 months ago

    1. Who has Mir beaten? and 2. You're right. Ringmaster White with his Sideshow Brock "the gorilla with no skill who lays on you" Lesnar

    Wait, some Dananuthugger said below at least Werdum beat Vera...well Mir lost to Vera so what does that say? Mir is a NEVER WAS.
    Reply »
  • Posted By lichnight1
    2 months ago

    lol dana's twitter

    : D 2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    Only thing that upsets is Dana White, he's going to be all over this, he's going to want to sign Werdum back and sell him as Luke Skywalker the man who beat the Emperor.
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  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    Well, Fedor finally made a mistake and Werdu, capitalized on it beautifully! Mad props BJJ RULES!
    Reply »
  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago

    Hear, hear.
    Reply »
  • Posted By BigNog22
    2 months ago

    NOBODY IS INVINCIBLE NOBODY,AT LEAST IN MMA.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    Agreed! Fedor had to loose sooner or later.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    Exactly, everyone makes mistakes, Fedor finally made his and from it he will be a better fighter.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    the man is invincible but the people on this site treat him as a god...that my friend is the reason its a big deal when everytime u post a comment on any fighter FEDOR is brought up.
    Reply »
  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    @SHAKEZULA
    The only reason you are making a big deal out of Fedor is because you're die hard UFC fans with Brock's and Dana's ****s up your asses. It's not only Fedor either; it's "Strikefarce", Dream and boxing too.

    You're simply not fight fans and like to project on those of us who's lived through the Fedor and Pride era from the beginning.

    Plain and simple... it's bullshit.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    See, you're confused, Fedor is supposed to be a big deal, because he's the pretend greatest. Remember? You probably have a tattoo of the guy.
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago
    FedorsNuts
    Sorry we are a new generation that doesnt beleive in your make belevie best fight ever. I personally dont really have a greatest fighter ever because anyone can be beat... but i mean really your talkin about everyone riding Danas and Brocks ****s well you my friend why are you on Scott Crockers ****, and Fedors nuts, and M-1s dildo, huh huh, exactly bitch he lost we respect him but not his die hard fans who think just because they liked MMA before a lot more peolple they have the right to lick the pubs off of his nuts get over yourself dude he lost .
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago
    @ FedorsNUTS....in your mouth
    His name is Fedorsnuts......y the hell are u talkin to me about havin someones **** up their ass??????? HUH KID????? and yea im sorry u old farts have to deal with us younger generation ohhhh god woe is you. Stop jacking your own ego man.
    Reply »
  • Posted By TDraGon
    2 months ago

    Ironic how the "best fighter" in the world losses his first fight
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    2 months ago

    Fedor didn't know how to TAP! LMAO! He overcommitted man to Werdum on the ground. Made a crucial mistake.
    Reply »
  • Posted By boneyjames
    2 months ago

    what are you talkin about he lost before
    Reply »
  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    A DQ loss... those do not usually count, an unintentional illeagal mistake can turn into losses even if you were winning in the first place....
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    weak or not the man has a point.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Predatory
    2 months ago

    If this was the UFC, Fedor would still be fighting for the title next match (aka Lesnar style)! LMAO 4-1 record of a "champion"
    Reply »
  • Posted By LowkickDick
    2 months ago

    Thats amusing since this happened in strikeforce where brett rodgers got tko'd and then fought for the belt while fedor fought someone furhter down the rankings. Werdum beats Fedor and all you can do is bitch about lesnar? Weak!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    No it wouldn't. If this were the UFC, Fedor wouldn't even be in contention. Just like Werdum wouldn't even be in contention. Just like Rogers wouldn't even be in contention.

    He was offered a first fight title shot, and a massive contract, and he'll never be offered it again. He'll never get a title shot in the UFC. And, Lesnar would dominate him. So would Shane, and Cain, and JDS. etc. etc. etc.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Predatory
    2 months ago

    Once one of those guys beat all of the others (between JDS Cock Cain Shane Nelson Overeem) then they may have the right to call out Fedor and I would agree the fight should happen. Until then, none of them even have 1/3 the credentials to be named in the same breath. Dana would have never brought anyone to Pride to Fight Fedor when he was there, think about why. He took Chuck to get KTFO tho! LMAO.
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  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    Bit Chuck laid out Overeem and if im not mistaken Overeem dominated Rogers who almost beat Fedor your ****in retarded dude get off the thread and get off Fedors nuts im sure hes getting tired of you too.
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    man my fingers are gettin tired..... WHY dont all the FEDOR groupies get together and just make ONE comment say i dont have to respond to ALLLLLL of you.
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  • Posted By MereDictum
    2 months ago

    Pls stop feeding the fedorite trolls, their tiny brains are impervious to logic.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Fedor's contract is now expired right?i hope he signs with the UFC..i want to see him fight Dos Santos/Velasquez....
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    He has one more fight. Hopefully it will be the rematch Werdum asked for. The only way you will see him in the UFC is if he avenges that loss but at this point Dana will use this as an out to protect his top HWs from a potential loss to a guy who was beaten by Werdum, who he sees as washed up.
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  • Posted By ahhhhhhhhhhhh
    2 months ago

    more likely he'll still want fedor but the contract wont be half as impressive so fedor will reject it again, either fighting outside america or retiring
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Riiiiiight he's bent over backward to sign Fedor because he wants to protect the real top HW's from the guy who lost to someone who couldn't hack it in the UFC.

    The only way we'll see Fedor in the UFC is if the top-10 catch Lesnar's ass fungus and have to retire.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago
    WOW
    wow that was great i allways thought he was way way way over rated. thay all fall! now if brock wins he will b #1 and WE as fan will get to see someone hunt him down ahhhhhh I LOVE MMA
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    how is he overrated, because he lost? Werdum is top 10. Fedor is still better than Brock, Cain, Carwin and anybody else you wanna throw in the UFC HW devision son.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Fedor better than UFC HW???Carwin,Cain, and Dos Santos wont arm bar your boyfriend Fedor..theyre gonna put him into retirement if he steps in the cage with these guys....
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  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    2 months ago

    You wana tell that to Dos Santos????
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago
    @TenderRainDrops
    I agree that Fedor is better than those guys but I am pretty sure no one has Werdum ranked in the top ten. He may be in the top 15-20 though.
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  • Posted By LowkickDick
    2 months ago
    @ TRD
    I think Fedor just lost a guy that was released from the UFC. So if Werdum was still in the UFC (but he got cut remember) where would that put Fedor?
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Weak. The Fedor zombies are pitiful... Desperately clinging to their delusions.

    I've already seen several of them claim that Fedor threw the fight. Sad... It's like they just learned that Santa isn't real.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Haven't seen that claim but if it is true, it is a ridiculous claim. Fedor made a mistake. All the greats have.
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  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    @LowkickDick
    Werdum left cause he wasn't happy with the contract negotiations. Similar deal to Hendo.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Left of his own accord.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Yeah, it had nothing to do with him being manhandled. Werdum would have beaten all the UFC HW's, like he did to Fedor, if he wanted to.
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    Well they won't armbar because they don't know how especially Carwin and Cain, Dos can maybe survive on the ground for 5 minutes with Fedor, otherwise they are not going to be waking up.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    you're right don't know how to do an Armbar but they know how Turn off the Lights......do you seriously think Fedor can stand and bang with Carwin?or take Carwin/velasquez down?your delusional if you think so...Hats off to Werdum he went to his strengths in this fight....
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    Yes i do think Fedor can take any of those guys down. The point of Judo is using your opponents weight against themselves. Fedors hands are by far better than the fighters you described. Please prove me otherwise. thank you.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago
    BOO
    BROCK STILL WON IT,
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    a paper belt from Dana White as an offering, please kid.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    The paper belt is the WAMMA belt, Fedor's P4P status. Imaginary.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago
    ?
    I DONT KNOW HOW U SAY THAT WHEN HE NEVER FOUGHT ANY OF THEM. MAYBE THATS WHY I SAID HE IS OVER RATED BECOUSE FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS HE FOUGHT BUMS!!!!!
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  • Posted By LowkickDick
    2 months ago

    Wow is no one going to give Werdum any credit? All people are talking about is Fedor making a mistake.
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    isnt the fact that one mistake in Werdums favor that ends up ending the fight a complement???????
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  • Posted By LowkickDick
    2 months ago
    @ Shakezula
    I guess it would be if that is the intentions of the poster, but I don't think it is.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    NO MISTAKE ! HE LOST BJJ BEATS SOMBO
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Sambo (as it is properly spelled) has beaten BJJ many times and vice versa. They are actually pretty similar as far as grappling goes.
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  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    Umm ok...
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    HOW MANY GOOD SUB GUYS HAS FADOR FACED HMMM THINK ON THAT ONE,
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    I can't tell you how many but I can tell you that he beat the best HW submission artist in his prime. Do you know his name?
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    You mean the guy who came to the UFC only to struggle to make the cut? The guy you pretend is just old, like practically every Pride star who is suddenly magically old the moment they start facing real competition?
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  • Posted By MereDictum
    2 months ago

    Here ut comes. The next fedorite spin will be that he's just past his prime.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Take the beatings Nog has taken and tell me how your body reacts.
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  • Posted By moots
    2 months ago

    I'll always be a Fedor fan, but I'm glad he finally lost. Now the back-and-forth drama between UFC and M-1 is finally at an end, and I can stop putting up with Fedor's lack of media exposure, avoiding answering questions, etc. I wonder what is running through Overeem's mind now though.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Absolutely amazing. A ten year run has just come to an end. It will be interesting to see if the talk of retiring comes to anything or if this reinvigorates Fedor. On a side note, this fight makes Overeem irrelevant. Werdum V Overeem is no where near as exciting now as Werdum V Fedor II. I am picking Fedor to win the rematch. This loss boils down to a mistake. Fedor will not make the same mistake twice.
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  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    One loss and people are already saying Fedors done? Please tell me people arn't this ignorant. Fedor made a mistake, and Werdum took advantage of it. He knows how to defend against this kind of submisson, it's very common in Sambo and I'm sure he's upset he failed to do so. No ones perfect, we all make mistakes. He's still the best P4P in my book.
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    He tried a couple of times by the looks of it, but he defiantly overcommitment to GnP without trying to establish a god position. Werdum did a beautiful job. I'm not sure of this was a mistake due to mental error or the fact that he is slowing down, when he fought Nog he threw his submissions no problem, but he obviously didn't this time.
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  • Posted By Shippy4tw
    2 months ago

    People think he is done because of two reasons: 1) He's been talking about retirement lately and 2) He just lost to a guy who is not even a top 10 fighter in his weight class
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  • Posted By moots
    2 months ago

    Many rankings had Werdum as #8 heavyweight in the world. Where are you getting your facts?
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  • Posted By KYMAN
    2 months ago

    its hilarious how fedor fans now saying anyone can lose before it was noone can beat him .. sorry son i dont think he can beat carwin or brock to much power for him major ground n pound on his head
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    THANK YOU!! Its not hte fact that he lost cuase EVERYONE loses and everyone is not perfect but the way that people talk about him YOUR SETTING HIM UP FOR A FALL PEOPLE!!!! And he fell farther than when Kevin Randleman SKY SUPLEXED him!!!!
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    I am a huge Fedor fan and I never said that. In fact, I have said for years that Fedor has sloppy boxing and makes up for it with his sense of timing and distance. Gross generalizations make you look dumb. He can definitely beat Brock and Carwin though. Carwin can also beat him.
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    um unless i came out and said **** YOU IChokePeople u FEDORNUTHUGGER COMPLAINING EXCUSE MAKING BITCH......then im not talking to you man. but im sure if u just slow you're roll a lil bit and actually read this thread or maybe the million others that the fedorinians have posted on, u can see that they set him up to be invincible when that is just ignorant to do.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    OVEREEM 2 UFC ! STRIKEFORCE FALL THAT SUCK AT MARKETING FADOR. FADOR BROCK WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST MMA DRAW EVER! DOWN THE DRAIN NOW. I THINK THAY ARE GONNA DO A WERDUM FADOR REMATCH RIGHT AWAY
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  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    I knew he would eventually loss, but i never thought he would loss to Werdum, holy shit.
    He made a terrible mistake going to the ground, shoulda let him stand and then knock him out but that didnt happen.
    I think his age and ring rust could of taken a toll on him today.
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  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    .....but with some people, losses bring out greatness I hope that helps him a bit.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    well your book dont mean 2 much. again since no one can ever market fador right alot of nonhardcore mma fan dont even know who he is
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    The reason nobody can market Fedor, is because you can't magically create an audience for any of the fringe organizations that he has fought in since Pride.
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago

    Its funny how Fedorites are saying stuff like "He will be back" and "Everybody loses" For one, he will not be back... He will fulfill he contractual obligations and disappear into obscurity.. So maybe one more fight and it will probably just be Werdum again. He even sounded like he was done. He said "I have one more fight in America."

    As far as the "everybody loses" crap, that sure as hell is not what u have been talking all along!? Plus, saying his win streak is impressive is lame... Dude's record reads like a whose who list of nobodies. He finally fights a guy who is ARGUABLY top ten, not arguably now, but going in and loses in 1 minute... Well 1 minute and 9 seconds, sorry...

    He was great in Pride. That died with Pride.

    And yes I picked Werdum by sub in 2nd rnd, so dont try to say I switched up.
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    So what? You make it sound like he's a bum. Even if he is not as good as he used to be, he was still the best p4p fighter in mma history, ahead of anderson and silva and wanderlei, shogun etc. We'll see after his next fight. Everybody's time comes to an end. No need to kick a man when he's down.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Ahead of anderson silva and wandy??as for now yes...but records are made to be broken... btw id rather watch Wandy knocked people out or get knocked out than see the "number one rank HW" lose to someone who everybody said was gonna get KTFO...
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago

    No, I am not kicking him... He is far from a bum and is one of the greatest to have ever did this fight thing. Just that he hasn't been very competitive over the last few years. He has fought sub-par opponents and made less and less appearances in the octagon. My comments are in regards to those who have battered any person around them who tried to make the rational argument that Fedor may no longer be the p4p best... Its amazing how modest they have become now.

    Btw, TenderRainDrop I am not saying you are one of those ppl, but those ppl know who they are.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    Any given night it can happen. Look I have coached state champions and we would have 3 loses in the regular season and get in the playoffs and upset some dominant teams. I have been undefeated and get upset. It happens. Fedor has even said it can happen and it happened. Now all you Fedor haters have your moment tonight which is great. Eventually you will have to pick he would lose. Not trying to knock your predictions they obviously were good one's. I love Fedor he is still a great fighter, Werdum even said that and said he would fight Fedor again because he is the "BEST". Congrats on all your picks.
    Oh, on another note did everyone see how Fedor handles himself win or lose? it is the same. Not like Lesnar(WWE joke), or Mir. Fedor is like Carwin very humble and gracious win or lose. Yes losing does happen. One man never lost a fight and it was Rocky Marciano, but nobody claims him the greatest, but all the ALI fans claim Ali the greatest after losing 4 fights. WOW!!!!!
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  • Posted By Valkyr
    2 months ago

    You're quite the UFC fan arn't you?
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  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    @SUCK
    You call yourself a fan of MMA and can't recognoize a ****ing amazing submission where Werdum catches Fedor going in for the kill, virtually in the air, and transitions from an armbar directly into a death grip triangle? Probably one of the most wicked displays of bjj in our lifetime, against the greatest MMA practitioner of our life time.

    But no - instead you have your "Fedor's through"-speech...


    Three words:

    Pathetic.

    Fraud.

    You.
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago
    @FedorsNuts
    What......in the HELL....are u talking about???? How does the quality of Werdum's submission have absolutely ANYTHING to do with my comments?

    Haha my favorite part of your comment is the 3 words part!!
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    +1...i dont hate fedor but i think people placed him on a pedestal like a god...out his 30+ wins the only fighters he beat that are significant is Nog and Crocop....Greatness is not judge by having the most wins...its beating the best in that era...since Pride days Fedor has not been fighting people he should be fighting...
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Something like 15 of those first wins in that streak are against complete unknowns before he ever fought anyone.
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  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago
    @NeverBeenKicked
    Fedor's beaten half the UFC champs that ever was and he's beaten all the PRIDE champs. The "era" you're speaking of is Brock Lesnar and Randy Couture - every other active champ he's beaten. Between those two they've had 4 title fights.

    And please don't mention Pride when you think Nog and Cro Cop are the only fighters worth mentioning out of that era - it's obvious you wasn't there to testify.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Couture has had 16 title fights
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  • Posted By Fedornuthugger
    2 months ago

    Yea, mark coleman and randleman were the REAL deal man!
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    I will correct myself Carwin has never lost, but if he does this weekend I am sure he will act the same.
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago
    @johnedge
    Did you actually register the words that you read in my comment? The only reason I mentioned that I picked Werdum is so people wouldn't say, "Oh, well even you thought Fedor would win." As I said in my comment, I mentioned it so ppl wouldn't say I switched up. Then you insinuated that I always pick Fedor to lose, so eventually it was bound to be correct and, if I am not mistaken, you categorized me as a "Fedor hater". Thats an all around ignorant statement. I don't think I have ever picked Fedor to lose a fight before this one (Well maybe against Nog). Without going into it to much here, I had my reasons to believe Werdum had the tools to pull it off. Anyway, putting aside all the negative undertones in your statement, thanks for your congrats.... I think?
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago
    @johnedge
    Did you actually register the words that you read in my comment? The only reason I mentioned that I picked Werdum is so people wouldn't say, "Oh, well even you thought Fedor would win." As I said in my comment, I mentioned it so ppl wouldn't say I switched up. Then you insinuated that I always pick Fedor to lose, so eventually it was bound to be correct and, if I am not mistaken, you categorized me as a "Fedor hater". Thats an all around ignorant statement. I don't think I have ever picked Fedor to lose a fight before this one (Well maybe against Nog). Without going into it to much here, I had my reasons to believe Werdum had the tools to pull it off. Anyway, putting aside all the negative undertones in your statement, thanks for your congrats.... I think?
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  • Posted By santana8745
    2 months ago
    Fedor Submitted, Wow Shocking,
    Well I just witnissed the last Emperor Dethroned by a huge Underdog in Fabricio Werdum, now that fight taught me something, never be too quick to ground and pound a world class BJJ blackbelt and champion, But i noticed Fedor' heart and Mindset wasn't into the fight he looked as if he had a bad day right before fight night as if he were dumped by a lover, I'm still a fedor fan and i gotta hand it to werdum because he Trained lots and lots of BJJ for this fight and it payed off because Mentally he wanted this fight Alot, Brock vs Carwin will simply unify the best Heavyweight fighter right now, i've gotta get back in the Gym and work on my submission defence, now this like i said this had an MMa Educational aspect, never be too quick to Ground and pound a BJJ blackbelt because once he grabs ahold of an arm or leg, if he has it tight you'll be submitted,
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  • Posted By BlueClearSky
    2 months ago

    Congrat to Werdum, Fedor over aggressive fall into a trap for submission.
    imo
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    lol good thing he didnt walk out in a tapout shirt lol
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  • Posted By santana8745
    2 months ago

    Demian Mai is a second Degree Black belt in Bjj , and he could have submitted Anderson silva the same way Fedor got submitted, If you look at that fight Anderson did his best to Avoid ground contact with Mai, even though Fedor lost tonight he still has the best MMA record and when he retires he'll be rememberd not for being submitted but for Always Giving good fights for the fans, I feel bad for Fedor but hey sometimes it's just not your night or anybody's
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  • Posted By sapizo80
    2 months ago

    **** FEDOR. GOOD JOB WERDUM.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    HA HA HA! Let me ask one question to ever Fedor hater. Some people ask why do you guys still like Fedor he got beat tonight? Well here is the question to the Fedor haters. Why is Muhammad ALI considered the greatest fighter ever when he got beat 4 times?
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  • Posted By HipHopMMA
    2 months ago

    first you cant compare Fedor to ALI , Ali is a god who fought long 15 round wars , second nobody asked if you still like fedor...people are telling you he got Pawned...its that simple
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    Marciano was better then Ali. Period. He wasn't considered the greatest because he didn't dance and hype himself up. Fedor loses and poeple think he sucks now.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    Man you're soooo stupid.....i didn't think anyone but hardcore neo-nazis or white supremacists would say that marciano was better than ali nowadays.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    I will give you the answer why people think Ali was the greatest and that was he puts on a show and taunted people. Looked like an idiot. Look I am from KY and people in Louisville said he got his butt whipped all the time when he was in Louisville.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Boxing and fighting are different. One can be great at on and suck at the other.
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Also, Ali made some great comebacks.
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  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago

    Cause it wasn't just about fightin when Ali fought!!!!! Race and everything else!!!! Don't EVER compare Ali to MMA fighters!!!
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Because Ali fought the best HW throughout his career...Fought dangerous opponents even when he already had Parkinson's...
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    It's because of how he lost. Fedor wasn't old like ali or joe louis, it's not because he didn't train properly like tyson, it's not because he was injured, it's not because he was unprepared..he just LOST

    That's all there is to it buddy. This might surprise retarded fedor nuthuggers, but there's a hell of alot more to fighting than a record. You look at who a guy fought, when they fought them, how they fought them etc..you don't just look at a win or loss and pick your fave fighter based on that you clown.
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  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    I guess you are calling joe rogan, gsp, bj penn, a silva, w silva, john mc carthy, shogun rua and many many more as retarded? or maybe you are.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    nah, you're definitely retarded because you didn't even read or understand what i said at all. Lets ask joe rogan,shogun, a silva, etc etc etc if brock carwin and company could take out mark coleman,randleman, atleast 5 johnny nobodies fedor fought, silvia, arlovski.....

    Wonder what they'll say? that's probably why they can talk about more than Fedors record like the simpletons on the boards, get butthurt somewhere else.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Because Ali didn't duck the competition johnedge. Get it yet?
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    one more thing..Ali was charismatic in and outside the ring....he even pushed rights for his people...so that alone doesnt compare to any mma fighter....unlike your Fedor who just trained, signed ridiculous contracts, fought nobodies and traveled to Korea to eat Dog meat...
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    Fedor doesn't have to be charismatic. He is a humble man. Who doensn't need to be charismatic to help people. He has a better demeanor then Ali. Ali was a draft dodger.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    You go and die if you believe in a draft. Pretty easy to criticize when you don't live through it.
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  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago

    Dude...You wouldnt wanna be drafted neither...
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago
    @johnedge
    SIR!!!!!! u need to calm down SIR!!!!!!
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  • Posted By IChokePeople
    2 months ago

    Nothing wrong with refusing to promote US hegemony. I admire Ali for that.
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  • Posted By Fedornuthugger
    2 months ago

    This is the kind of stupidity or reputation relies on!
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    So don't go in the draft for your country. That is good. Then Ali, I mean Cassius Clay is not American right?
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    and this right here is why americans are considered ignorant. You all need to thin out the herd, need to draft people from these boards if anything.
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago
    @Madnessstill
    Americans arent considered ignorant. You're a moron. Yea were are ignorantly the most successful country on the planet. Although, its hard to feel to insulted by someone who posts a picture like that as their avatar and then acts feminine on the majority of their posts.

    BTW, you're purple..... California Raisin looking bitch.
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  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago

    And yes I noticed my typo, god knows had I not pointed it out first it would have been the central point of some lame comeback insult....
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  • Posted By Fedornuthugger
    2 months ago

    Americans aren't considered ignorant! Atleast...not in america!
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    No need to point out a typo. If you don't think americans have a reputation as being ignorant, you've never been outside of your country. If pointing out common sense and logical errors is acting feminine, then i'm sure you give all men a bad name in real life.

    Btw, you're pale, go pay for some color you pasty butthurt son of a bitch.

    And now for a post that's actually ontopic, did you see what i was responding to before your panties got all tight? You really think ali should have gone to the draft because it was "american"? ****ing idiot, you probably didn't even see that post. Go look up what ignorant means.
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  • Posted By MMAW
    2 months ago

    Anyone smart enough to put money on Werdum?
    The odds for Werdum winning was +400
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    Damn!!!! Talk bout Cleanin house
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  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago

    I believe if you picked him you may have made a million....Wow...I new i should have went to Vegas!!!!
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  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago
    @Shake
    You no we are settin ourselves up to be yelled at if Brock loses right??? But we are manly men and will take that and move on...And no put brock in the clouds and or on a thrown and give stupid pre-k reasons for why he lost...no we are manly men....
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  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    oh yea im sure if i say I WANT BROCK TO WIN!!!! which i do then if he loses everyone will go hahahah u stupid ignorant tard....BUT..... i am a manly man and i do believe i have never used words as GODLY, INVINCABLE, KING, or ALL AROUND P4P BEST FIGHTER EVER, to characterize Brock Lesnar. I like him idc what other people think, i am not a bandwagoner, but i do have a fully functional brain that alows me to actually think about my decision i make so........i think ill be just fine.
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    i dont hate fador, he puts on good fights, some nice kos... but still dont ever belive the hype! u wanna bring up his record! its a bum list. he puts on great fights against bums. no bums in ufc. i wish thay would have made a deal befor fador was exposed would have been some good fights 4 him there. maby still
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  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    and dont put ali and fador in the same sentence
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    You just did numb-nuts.
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    ALi sucked all show fights were fixed. Fedor is right up there even more past him they way he conducts himself. I mean damn Fedor wouldn't of lost to Larry Holmes.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Ali sucked, what a twit.
    Reply »
  • Posted By JP86
    2 months ago

    And your some raciest white guy...even the kkk once said...He maybe black...but boy can that guy fight....
    Reply »
  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    ston3pony. "Ali sucked" ? Do you just go around trying to get weaks or stimulate reaction with bs posts? At least some trolls occasionakky write something well thought and sometimes constructive. I haven't seen any from you that match that criteria as yet. Pure BS
    Reply »
  • Posted By T99
    2 months ago

    i guess me and azkikka were proven wrong, too much of one thing isnt a good thing eventually one was gonna get em along the way,
    Reply »
  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    I thought Fedor would win, but there's plenty of posts wherre i said people underrating Werdums chances.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    BTW it is a great analogy. Fedor loses a fight finally via submission or knockout and now he sucks. Ali got knocked out three times and he is a god? If you want to go by records I guess Rocky Marciano was the greatest of all time the reason he is not because he didn't dance around and hype himself up.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    we'll most people don't think he sucks...what most fans don't understand is why is he fighting lesser competition when there are guys excluding UFC HWs that post a better challenge for him..like Overeem...but he fought Werdum..i guess he thought werdum will be an easy fight...and he paid for it...Rocky Marciano btw was a straight up brawler with no footwork....he won fighting guys that were working as miners, construction workers, railroad builders...
    Reply »
  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    Fedor fans have been going by the record ALL THIS TIME to say he's the greatest. Now he loses and you compare him to ali? Shut the hell up. If anybody is like ali it'd be silva, the guy who everyone was crying about because he wouldnt do what fedor did tonight and jump in a BJJ blackbelts guard.
    Reply »
  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    ali didnt fight bums!!! get it
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    he did, thats how a lot of boxers have those beautiful records of 30-4 because 20 of those wins were against bums before they hit the top tier.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Ali fought the best HW's in the world. Whereas Fedor's record is filled with a lot of names who might be worthy sparring partners at best.

    And, Ali only lost to the top tier fighters, and he actually was old. Unlike Fedor who only looks old compared to the top competition.
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  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    you telling me Ali fought the greatest fighters all the time? Please tell me more about.

    Tony Esperti
    Jimmy Robinson
    Alonzo Johnson
    Reply »
  • Posted By TorontoUFC
    2 months ago

    Sad Day :(
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    Larry Holmes sucked I don't care how old he was.
    Reply »
  • Posted By MADMIKEY11
    2 months ago

    ok im out peace mad_mikey yahoo im
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    I doubt this is going to tarnish his legacy, especially because he himself doesn't care all that much. In ten years people will be arguing about brock randy, bj, anderson, gsp etc. Then somebody is going to say "you guys remember Fedor?" and everybody will have a moment of silence, because they remember.
    Reply »
  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    they would say...Fedor??...silence...."oh yeah the guy who's balls TenderRainDrop sucked and licked for years"
    Reply »
  • Posted By BigNog22
    2 months ago

    the madden curse hit fedor,cause he's in the cover of EA mma,hahahahahha
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    BTW I still think Fedor is the greatest. Werdum did his homework and trained hard give him credit. I would love to see him fight him again.
    Reply »
  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    Good Comments by Werdum...He himself wanted a rematch to show Fedor is not really the best....i wonder if what the Fedorites say as an excuse if Fedor looses again...that would be interesting...
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    If he loses he loses.
    My last comment on the fight and I am out:

    Losing happens and athlete that disagree's never wore a jock strap. Every great has lost. Before I leave being 12-0 doesn't mean you are great too many fights left. If you win 30+ fights and lose 1 or 2 you are great.
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  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    30+ wins in which 27 wins came from nobodies in the mma world....great now we should base greatness from that disregarding the level of challenge for each fight....salute..
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    30+ fights, a few of which were against worthy opponents. Worthy opponents who turned out to be lack-luster when they moved over to face real competition.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    The fact is that nobody in combat sports (boxing, MMA. etc.) has ever fought the level of competition that Lesnar is fighting from the beginning of their career. Fedor had something like 15 MMA fights, years of training, dozens of other fights in other sports, before he fought a significant opponent.

    I defy anyone to show me any other fighter with a comparable level of competition in their first fights. Not Anderson, not Roy Jones, not Mike Tyson, not Ali, not Georges, not BJ, not Rua, not Machida, not Randy Couture or Nog or Cro Cop or anybody. Nobody even comes close.

    Lesnar deserves respect for that fact.
    Reply »
  • Posted By HipHopMMA
    2 months ago

    look at fedors fat roll in the photo at the top of this page,That tells it all...lmao

    "Vodka and cupcakes was my diet for the fight, i give lots-o-respect to werdum."
    Reply »
  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    that fat rolls been there on a 10 year win streak. no other fighter has that record despite last nights loss. gsp lost to serra, silva lost 4 times. they still great so is fedor. shame he lost but silly mistake he made cost him. should have had more respect for werdums skills
    Reply »
  • Posted By NikMegamanHulstein
    2 months ago

    Fat doesn't affect how you fight *depending on the amount* Just look at Roy Nelson.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Kimura
    2 months ago
    Stunned
    I just got back from this fight (the first MMA event I've been to).

    Wow. It almost feels like a dream...the fight was just so quick!
    I knew Werdum had the choke in deep as soon as he threw up that triangle, but it was just so surreal.

    I've been a hardcore MMA & Fedor fan for about six years now and it was just so crazy seeing Fedor lose live in person. Much props to Werdum though, he did exactly what he trained to do and said he was ooing to do.

    Damn!
    Reply »
  • Posted By FedorsNuts
    2 months ago

    Summing up the thread - a long and depressing read:

    What's really SAD about this fight imho is the sour taste the UFC/Cock Chestnar fanboys put on a otherwise brilliant finish from Werdum and a excellent, excellent card for Strikeforce.

    They want to make it about Fedor losing, but it's really about them not being able to appreciate Werdum winning...
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Who doesn't appreciate Werdum? He deserves a lot of respect for fighting upward competition. Unlike some other fighters, he takes the best fights that are available to him.
    Reply »
  • Posted By SHAKEZULA
    2 months ago

    Fedor lost......sooooo therefore someone had to beat him. Werdum is the man....its just more fun to watch u FedorNuthuggers complain and cry over something that you yourselfs made so easy to do. If u didnt worship him like a god then it wouldnt be as bad when he finally lost.
    Reply »
  • Posted By joelsephw420
    2 months ago

    WOOO!!!!!! I knew Werdum could win this fight
    Reply »
  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    This is sad for Fedor...this will lessen his chances for bargaining more money from the UFC is he signs with them after his contract with SF...for M-1 global this is a disaster..they only make money from Fedor... btw there were rumours that Overeem will be moving to the UFC...
    Reply »
  • Posted By NeverBeenKicked
    2 months ago

    This is sad for Fedor...this will lessen his chances for bargaining more money from the UFC is he signs with them after his contract with SF...for M-1 global this is a disaster..they only make money from Fedor... btw there were rumours that Overeem will be moving to the UFC...
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Overeem would be fun to watch against Dos Santos. That'd be an awesome fight. And you're right. Fedor won't be offered anything remotely close to what the UFC offered him before.

    It was dumb of him, when he had the leverage, because of all the myth and legend surrounding his name, he could have locked in a 10 fight deal for like $3m a pop and been completely secure. Let's just hope that the damage having been done to M-1 now, maybe Fedor will figure he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by making the move to major league fighting.

    I like Fedor, but he has been stupid and selfish, his management too. People will still watch him, even if he's losing in the UFC, he should do it.
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  • Posted By Knockout
    2 months ago
    It is ok to lose.....
    I admire Fedor, even in defeat, as a human being and as a fighter. This sport is a brutal one and even the greats fall. Fedor summed it up best in his post fight response about how he will deal with the loss. "You can't get back up without falling." The way Werdum won was a classic armbar by a specialist in that realm. Congrats to Werdum, and even in victory he admits that Fedor is the best. Fedor, as I have said before has nothing left to prove. Name a great, any great , in any sport or realm of life and they have all seen defeat. Today's loss could have happened to anyone and to be honest was not a devastating loss that diminishes any credibility on Fedor. The man simply got caught in a brilliant submission by one of the best on the ground. Good job Werdum. Fedor needed this in my opinion. He needed someone to let him get hungry again. He's been full for too long. Can't wait for his next fight.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    It's ok to lose...now that Fedor lost that is.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago
    Knockout well said
    Any given night it can happen. Look I have coached state champions and we would have 3 loses in the regular season and get in the playoffs and upset some dominant teams. I have been undefeated and get upset. It happens. Fedor has even said it can happen and it happened. Now all you Fedor haters have your moment tonight which is great. Eventually you will have to pick he would lose. Not trying to knock your predictions they obviously were good one's. I love Fedor he is still a great fighter, Werdum even said that and said he would fight Fedor again because he is the "BEST". Congrats on all your picks.
    Oh, on another note did everyone see how Fedor handles himself win or lose? it is the same. Not like Lesnar(WWE joke), or Mir. Fedor is like Carwin very humble and gracious win or lose. Carwin has not lost and hopefully July 3rd it won't happen.
    I look at a fighter like Fedor and see a good side to him. It doesn't come off arrogant and ****y like some fighters with way, way more loses then him.
    You are great when people love it when you lose. A great coach told me that "they never boo a loser. They boo a winner who lost."
    UFC fans jump on popularity votes they all find out who everyyone else likes or is winning or acts like a fool in the cage. It reminds me when the Duke was great in the 90's, then all of the sudden they don't show any arrogance and when they lose everyone says "see I told you they suck" after they win about 4-5 NCAA titles.
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  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago
    Just a reminder to all Fedor Fans (like me)
    Just a reminder to all Fedor fans:
    First I still think he is the best just like Werdum said. The UFC fans love it since he lost. Ask them if they still love their favorite fighter if he loses? My guess is they jump on another band wagon. This ought to get some interesting comments.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    It wouldn't be such a big deal if it wasn't that all most every fedor "fan" is so consistently stupid that they undermine ALL other fights because they lose.

    Yea, EVERY other kind of fan loves their favorite fighter after they lose, it's Fedor nuthuggers that need to worry about losses, since they claim it can't happen and all they talk about is his record.
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Get over it johnedge.
    Reply »
  • Posted By whitey
    2 months ago

    I said before in another forum Fedor looked softer than usual (physically) I guess mentally he was a bit softer as well, very silly mistake by Fedor cost him this fight.

    However it's that kind of reckless abandon that makes everyone love Fedor, he's a killer, he thinks you are hurt and he tries to shut you off ... or take your arm home. Werdeum bated him, it worked.
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  • Posted By 1878
    2 months ago

    Fedor will now retire a laughing stock could you imagine Dana Whites smug face haha

    The UFC wont even want him now!
    Reply »
  • Posted By T666
    2 months ago

    FEDOR WILL BE BACK
    he wrote this on his facebook page

    tru fans support fedor win or loose
    hes was like a real emporer
    and props to werdum was the first
    to beat fedor in 10 years
    everything would be cool
    its a sport but for one thing...

    dana white
    **** u disonorable asshole
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  • Posted By ston3pony
    2 months ago

    Why are you blubbering and crying about a UFC promoter? Did he somehow make your imaginary husband lose his fight?

    You're angry because Dana White is right about Fedor not being the P4P #1, or the #1 HW.

    It must be rough to have these kinds of long built of illusions shattered so abruptly.
    Reply »
  • Posted By bluntsandbeers
    2 months ago

    fedor appriciates you keeping his nuts warm.
    Reply »
  • Posted By whitey
    2 months ago

    STON3PONY

    I've been reading through the threads this morning and I must say. I myself am a UFC Fan, I actually like Dana White and I think Brock actually has some talent besides being 265+ pounds.

    That being said you really need to tone it down and get off Dana/Brocks and the UFC's nuts.

    Is Dana happy? , probably. Is Fedor still the best heavy weight in the world, Yes. Everyone loses, but he has still amassed the greatest record in the sport. Now if he goes and fights silva/overeem and gets Ko'd, then you can come back and run your mouth until then shut up.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    I can tell nuthuggers supported you. Why? you mentioned the record.
    Reply »
  • Posted By bluntsandbeers
    2 months ago

    LMAOOOOOOOO you know nothing. fedor lost to werdum, first round gave up, tapped. hes out of p4p conversation because he didnt loose a descion or anything that is contriversial( like the best LW in the world BJ PENN) and he lost to a B level fighter, in his B level orginization. fedor lost this fight cause he was ****y, running to the ground with werdum was the DUMBEST thing anybody could do, and i was yelling at my T.V to wave him up because honestly werdum's grabage azz doesnt have the right to take out the p4p king. but he did. and it has dis proved your whole statement of bes HW in the world. wanna know why? cause he got tapped by another HW(who got cut from the ufc back when the divison was a joke) soo good try man.
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  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    Win / lose. People still love / hate the guy. The arguements still the same and the questions still asked.

    Regardless of this result he is so good his record is still unmatched. I'm surprised by how he rushed it so much, kinda reminded me of arlovski rushing in and losing.

    The most interesting thing is how the rankings pan out. If Brock wins and goes #1 it makes a total mockery of the rankings as he hasn't fought in over a year. But we'll have to wait and see.

    To the haters who think this justifies their continual derision of Fedor, grow up and recognise he is a fighter like any other who can lose but one whose record is second to none and he always tries to finish rather than laying and praying or dancing around and regardless of your immature noobish opinions will always go down in history as one of mma's finest.
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  • Posted By azzkika
    2 months ago

    It has just occured to me all this discussion is derived from the fact fedor didn't sign for ufc. GSP lost and there weren't loads of haters saying told you so. All fighters can lose, and your point is? If you seriously think this proves bs opinion that fedor is crap or undeserving of his rank it only proves how extremely arrogant you are and how ignorant and uneducated and gullible to Dana's anti fedor line cos he failed to contract the greatest fighter of his generation to ever set foot in a ring. His achievements still outwiegh any other fighter in UFC, and in years to come long after we are dead will be known as one of the godfathers of mma along with gracie, and will stil command one of the best ever records and win streaks.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    Why can't you retards stop mentioning his record? what if brock left the ufc and decided to fight johnny nobodies to go 60-1? Damn kids should be banned until they can actually make argments that don't sound like "omg fedor never loses!" or "omg nobuddy can beet hiz record!" That's because the other good heavyweights fight each other.

    Again, nobody hates on Fedors abilities, they hate on the army of imbeciles winning attracts.
    Reply »
  • Posted By bluntsandbeers
    2 months ago

    lmaoooooooooooo this kid has just shat on the entire fedor nut hugging universe, i couldnt have said it better my man. thank you.
    Reply »
  • Posted By StickinUrChick
    2 months ago
    @cuntsandqueers
    "Yea dude totally shat and stuff man!" Although I agree with the Fedor's record part, having morons like yourself on the same side of the debate as myself is rather discouraging....
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    I NEVER said he wouldn't get beat. I didn't think it would be Werdum to be honest with you guys. The man himself said he would get beat one day it was a matter of time. I predicted it would be when he finally joined the UFC at the age of 100yrs old. If the man said he would get beat one day and all you guys read every blog story. You should know he has said this many times. Oh wait, it wasn't on a UFC forum.
    Reply »
  • Posted By bluntsandbeers
    2 months ago

    if theres a immidiate rematch strikeforce will loose all creditbility as a MMA orginazation, it has to be fedor vs silva, werdum vs allistair
    Reply »
  • Posted By Bam
    2 months ago

    Hey Fabricio how about trading and banging against Fedor huh?didn't think so u dumb F&*$%^&*(!!!!
    Reply »
  • Posted By johnedge
    2 months ago

    Who wouldn't want to see a rematch? I would I think Fedor will not go in for the kill that fast and keep the fight longer. He is smarter then me though so who knows what he will do. I think someone said it best. They wanted to see more kicks from Fedor. The comment came way before the Werdum fight like in May. Anyway, why wouldn't they not want a rematch quickly?
    Reply »
  • Posted By TenderRainDrop
    2 months ago

    I think a rematch is the most probably case scenario at this moment. Unless Strikeforce can sign Fedor for one more fight, that way he'll have to fight two more times. Once against Big Foot, then he'll face Werdum vs Overeem winner, hopefully Werdum will win against Overeem and we'll have one of the most anticipated rematches since Shogun/Machida. But that can only happen if SF signs another fight contract which i doubt they will. It's plausable Fedor vs Werdum 2, Fedors contract ends, hopefully he wins (if not, he should retire), and now is the chance for UFC to snag Fedor for a 3 fight deal minus co-promotion, they have a bit more leverage now to do so. Dana is not going to give this up, no matter what he says, there is a potential for so much money he's head will pop.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Drago
    2 months ago
    Fedor vs Werdum 2...?
    Isnt this a boring re-match? What do you think it will happen...? Silly rematch if you ask me, Fedor will keep the game stand up and "run" away frim ground game. It wasnt a good match up in the first place and it certainlly wont be in a possible rematch. People just want to see that because, weirdlly, they like Fedor so much they cant bare the thought of him loosing... It will be a farse like the Cung Lee re-match, everyone knew he was better, it was arranged only for audiences and the pride of the fighter, nothing else.

    Oh, and before you guys talk about other sudden rematches please remember that Shogun and BJ lost because of dubious decisions, they weren't stopped in any way. Fedor is a great fighter but hardly the best of all times. Save that "fanatic" love you have for him and reserve it for your family and friends...
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    2 months ago

    Cung le rematch actually made sense, because it was a KO resulting from untypical behavior by the champ. Fedor rematch makes less sense because:

    A) The matchup made no sense in the first place. Werdum nearly loses to like the 17th ranked guy...then gets a shot at the first? Huh? WTF does this prove?!

    B) The rematch...still really won't prove anything for Fedor if he wins. Werdum didn't win because he was better, he just seized an opportunity that Fedor pretty much ALWAYS gives his opponents, it's just that noone capitalized up until now

    C) Against a man who finally capitalized on that "rush-down even when my opponent has an excellent guard" style, Fedors only other strategy would be to fight like anderson silva and force his opponent to take him down manually or die, which is exactly what his fans(atleast the many less than intelligent ones) said they didn't want.

    Personally, i think that fact alone would make it entertaining
    Reply »
  • Posted By Drago
    2 months ago

    I agree with you on the Fedor rematch, it didnt made sense in the first place. Infact, it only proves what im keep saying from M-1 management, they dont know **** and they dont have Fedors best interest in mind - I mean, putting him on a fight he only had things to loose and nothing to gain...?

    As for the Cung Lee rematch I personally dont agree. Dont get me wrong, I really like Cung Lee style, its pitty he doesnt invest more in MMA and forget about a mediocre cinema career. But he isnt the champion so why the rematch? Imagine if all the fighters got rematches whenever they lost... Anyway, in the first fight you could clearly see Cung was better, he just made a mistake, didnt followed the game plan and got caught. Again, it wasnt a decision, was a clear stoppage by tko.. The rematch only proved what everyone knew and if it isnt a championship bout, rematches dont make much sense IMO.
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