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Originally Published 6 months ago

Finkelstein: "Alistair Overeem is a steroid bully"

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M-1 Global Boss Vadim Finkelstein dispelled the rumors regarding a possible fight between the arguably number one Pound-for-Pound fighter in the World, Fedor Emelianenko (32-1 in MMA), and the reigning Strikeforce Champion Alistair Overeem.

Finkelstein went razor-sharp on his words by claiming that “Overeem has nothing to offer for Fedor, except being a steroid bully.” The comments were immediately censored on the Russian website Sports.ru, but the headline remained the same.

Emelianenko will face the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu maverick Fabricio Werdum sometime in May, as the fight has been moved from it’s original booking at the stacked Strikeforce on CBS fight card on April 17th. Vadim Finkelstein discussed the credibility of Fedor’s and why Fabricio Werdum is a legit opponent for “The Last Emperor”:

Fabricio Werdum is a really good and well-known fighter, but there is a feeling that this fight will not draw as much interest as the fight against Brett Rogers. Werdum is not a striker, he is not American and not a trash talker…

- When we promoted the fight against Brett Rogers everyone had the exact thoughts. People expected a very easy fight for Fedor, they expected that he will take down Rogers quickly and submit him. That was not the case, as you know. That is the exact situation with Fabricio Werdum, as no one knows how the fight will go – that is the most beautiful thing in MMA. Do not forget that every time when Fedor Emelianenko, it attracts a lot of attention. The name of the opponent does not really matter. However, I will agree with you on some things, but we do not have a better candidate for the fight against Fedor right now.

What about the current Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem?

- I personally think that Alistair Overeem did not reach the desired level to challenge Fedor. He beat a lot of no-name opponents in Mixed Martial Arts. Overeem defeated Paul Buentello and then disappeared from the United States for more than two years, which is simply ridiculous. He has nothing to offer for Fedor Emelianenko, except being a steroid bully. Also, pay attention that Werdum beat Overeem when they were fighting in Pride, four years ago.

Don’t you think that the fight against Werdum should be for the Strikeforce title? Maybe Overeem should vacate his title, if he did not defend it for more than two years?

- We do not fight for the Strikeforce Heavyweight Title. Strikeforce are our partner, and any titles whether it is UFC, Strikeforce, WAMMA, Dream… they are just medals. Fedor is above these things. We are interested in the level of our opponent and his popularity among the audience.

So, it means that you will not demand the fight against Alistair Overeem?

- Exactly. We are more interested in fighting Josh Barnett, who is currently disqualified until September. When he returns from his suspension and if he tests clean, we might consider fighting him.

What about the Ultimate Fighting Championship, did you have any new negotiations?

- No. They did not contact us in any way. I don’t think that they are ready to follow our terms and conditions. We have our own organization, tournaments and partners. It is much better for us to be without the UFC.


Despite the negative comments, “The Demolition Man’s” management recently revealed that next announcement we will hear about Alistair Overeem will come from Strikeforce. Various sites report about the current dispute between M-1 Global and Strikeforce over the co-promotion conditions, which may eventually lead to the fight against Overeem (sometime in May), as he is the only credible opponent who can fight Fedor in the near future outside The UFC and Strikeforce.

Interview credit goes to Andrei Ivantsov, tribuna.sports.ru



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  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    "Fedor is above these things. We are interested in the level of our opponent and his popularity among the audience."

    Excuse me while I fall out of my chair laughing and hyperventilating. Now click weak because the truth hurts.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    I agree with you 100%...it's a joke.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    I know its hard for us westerners to understand anything other then money and fame.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UrHype
    6 months ago

    you live in Sweden so you cant claim to be a westerner .
    Dont claim to even try to understand what WE westerners think, thats pathetic
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shanoo
    6 months ago

    Lol owned........

    Europe and Quebec are always trying to be as cool as our culture.....theyre too gay when are they gonna get it?
    Reply »
  • Posted By HollywoodKOs
    6 months ago

    Fedor is not in his prime anymore. No wonder they keep him back from real competition. UFC has the most P4P legit fighters in MMA. If Fedor wanted to be popular with his "Bandwagon" fans then fight the best.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    6 months ago

    Obviously, this is a business decision coming from M-1. Fedor has fought the best and remember he has defeated 5 past UFC champions. I think being 265 pounds and having a body like Conan the Barbarian makes you a better fighter than Fedor regardless of a 4-1 record against the likes of Mir, Coulture, etc. M-1 basically does not want to get f--- by Dana White. After all the shit Dana White has said about Fedor, why should they bend over backwards for Dana White? Fedor has nothing to prove. If Dana says Lesnar will beat Fedor, accept M-1's terms and or let Lesnar or Cain or Dos Santos represent the UFC like they did with Liddell and Belfort years ago in Pride where Liddell got man handled by Rampage and Belfort got Submitted by Overeem!!! Food for THOUGHT!
    Reply »
  • Posted By HollywoodKOs
    6 months ago

    Yeah 5 UFC Champs that lost in the UFC and moved to Strikeforce and Affliction. Yeah good for Fedor to beat past Champs from UFC... yeah awesome. hahahah Fedor needs to fight the Champs in UFC now.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    6 months ago

    Dude, with all respect, you sound extremely ignorant. Know your facts before you make a fool out of yourself.

    I am not putting down UFC fighters in any way I am just saying that Fedor defeated them regardless if they chose to leave the UFC for another Organization. Keep in mind Fedor beat Big Nog twice in his prime!

    UFC champs huh? Who has Lesnar fought? Coulture (45 yrs), Mir (twice, lost to him once), Heath Herring, and Min Soo Kim....

    You are going to tell me this makes him a better and or more accomplished fighter than Fedor?

    If Dana wants Fedor vs Lesnar, he can make it happen. It does not have to be in the UFC. You be the judge.
    Reply »
  • Posted By rav3n420
    6 months ago

    Why should Dana White need to share promotional rights with M-1 just to sign an overrated fighter who was losing the fight to Bret Rogers and got a lucky punch, when the UFC is already the most well known and most popular MMA orginization in the world. Fedor would get dominated in the UFC by any of the top heavyweights. That's why he went to Strikeforce it's like the D-League (developmental league) of MMA.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    The excuses are pointless. The end result is that Fedor turned down a fantastic opportunity, for the chance to fight bums in a crap organization. Saying that he has nothing to prove over and over, won't change the reality that when he retires there will be legitimate questions about who he could and could not have beaten. He is the one that chooses to fight bums.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shanoo
    6 months ago

    I agree, strikeforce is like the minor leagues in some ways, except a few fighters, Hendo, Shields, Diaz and fedor M1ownsmylife Emilienko
    Reply »
  • Posted By PrideFC
    6 months ago

    "We do not fight for the Strikeforce Heavyweight Title. Strikeforce are our partner, and any titles whether it is UFC, Strikeforce, WAMMA, Dream… they are just medals. Fedor is above these things."

    That is easily the best quote ever. All you Dana White nuthuggers can say what you like, but we both know who is the Undefeated MMA Champion of the world.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    The guy who is interested in the level of opponents and their popularity. HAHAHA!

    Medication buddy.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Jizzle11
    6 months ago

    So people think... just because people say it doesn't make it true. We don't really know if Fedor would lose to one of the UFC heavyweights... we can speculate and that's it
    Reply »
  • Posted By HollywoodKOs
    6 months ago

    Watch the Arona vs Fedor fight and think again! Arona should have one.
    Reply »
  • Posted By HollywoodKOs
    6 months ago

    Arona should have WON. hahahah sorry.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    Agreed Jizzle11, all we know for sure is that Fedor has dominated the HW division in MMA not just one organization for 10 years.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    The reason we have to speculate is because the "best" opts to fight in low-rate organizations against fighters who would have no chance of fighting in the UFC.
    Reply »
  • Posted By The12Chambers
    6 months ago

    I agree, he is also the guy that fights no names every fight and has beat Fired UFC fighters, he stays in strike force to keep his #1 slot bc he hasnt fought anyone. put him in with the top ufc heavy weights and he would get destroyed, he almost lost to bret rogers for f*ck sakes
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    I thought i was the only one who noticed that.
    Reply »
  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    I believe Fedor needs to beat the UFC's HWs to maintain his grip on "best fighter", but there was no way he "almost lost" to Rogers unless you're talking about stoppage from a trivial nose cut.
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    6 months ago

    Bit rogers almost ground and pounded him out he just stoped for some reason tho and after he stoped he fell of fedor and fedor attempted an armbar.
    Reply »
  • Posted By jackthedrinker89
    6 months ago

    Yea i figured molst people would vote weak just because fans of any type of sport will not admit it if their team or person almost loses because they just dont want to admit they are beatable i have a friend who loves Anderson Silva and he doesnt beleive that Dan Henderson won the 1st round in their fight even though multiple people have said it and if you watch the fight he lost its just how it goes so people just think and realize anyone could lose to anyone.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    You are obviously blind to anything outside the UFC and automatically discount any fighter that fights for other organizations.
    Reply »
  • Posted By HollywoodKOs
    6 months ago

    Fans of Fedor are just ignorant. Just think when everyone was on Chucks nuts. Fedor will burn out too.
    Reply »
  • Posted By YoMama
    6 months ago
    Krogan
    Other than Pride... what good organization has Fedor been in in the last 10 years?

    Answer: None!!!

    Pride is a big name in fighting organizations and he faired well in it but when he left Pride lived on, and he lost it. Hope to see him challenged sometime soon. At least before he is 40 so you guys cant say he lost because he is out of his prime.
    Reply »
  • Posted By dropkickmurphy
    6 months ago

    Fedor has a 31-1 record and he has to prove himself against someone who is 4-1 because White says so? Get real man.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UrHype
    6 months ago

    Records dont always mean crap....look at Alistard.
    Reply »
  • Posted By MrMrMrTwister
    6 months ago

    yeah, he's got 11 losses, record speaks for itself
    Reply »
  • Posted By sarina
    6 months ago

    alestair moet eerst maar eens door drug test komen
    hij heeft een grote mond k1 zou hij ook winnen ha ha
    ja dat hebben we gezien
    hij heeft geen kans tegen fedor echt niet veels te traag kan bijna niet bewegen door ? ja ja
    Reply »
  • Posted By dropkickmurphy
    6 months ago

    got it backwards, Dana White can't sign Fedor to a long term deal, which is why Dana keeps him out of the UFC, to give legitimacy to his titles. No fighter is allowed to leave the UFC on a win...it is in their contract, if Fedor signs with the UFC he will never be allowed to leave until he is beaten. Look it up. Dana White and his contracts is about 10 times as bad as Don King, and history will prove this.
    Reply »
  • Posted By 707
    6 months ago

    just like hendo didnt leave after bisping?
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    What history proves is that Dana White is the one who knows how to run a successful organization without driving it in to the ground like the rest. And a real fan would be glad that they have to defend their titles.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UndefeatedOfWest
    6 months ago
    To Be Honest...
    I'm glad Dana does that. W/e business moves he made is what brought mma into what it is today and making it grow even bigger. PERIOD! Now has M-1 and Shitforce accomplished that? I'm guessing no and I wonder why...
    Reply »
  • Posted By sarina
    6 months ago
    dana white
    ja inderdaad dana white heeft het goed gedaan
    maar hij is arogant en wil niks delen
    dat is de reden dat fedor niet tekend en natuurlijk dat hij dan genn sambo meer kan doen wat in rusland heel bekand is
    dana is hebberig en dat koste hem de beste vechter
    Reply »
  • Posted By reality
    6 months ago

    Fedor is the best and it is up to other HW fighters to prove him wrong, why should he come to them; they need to come to fight him.
    Reply »
  • Posted By ston3pony
    6 months ago

    And of course if Fedor were in WWF retard-wrestling, his zombie-fans would be saying the same thing. If he's the best, he should be fighting the best. The excuses are empty, they won't hold up over the years while he fights nobody after nobody after nobody, while all the actual MMA bouts happen elsewhere.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UrHype
    6 months ago

    So if the best cook in the world gets paid big at a highclass culinary restraunt, he should leave and go work at McDonalds so he can serve more people?
    Reply »
  • Posted By UndefeatedOfWest
    6 months ago

    It is hard to prove someone wrong if they don't give you a reasonable chance...

    I mean come on. Is it really worth chasing fedor just to end up in a organization that doesn't do business as well as another organization that is at the top of the heat in competition and money?

    "Oh, yipee! I just beat fedor, but now I am stuck in a crappy organization for a while."

    Anyways, I feel that it is the champions responsibility to stay on top.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    The UFC is not the only organization with quality fighters, you must have tunnel vision and only see the UFC.
    Reply »
  • Posted By dropkickmurphy
    6 months ago

    On Lesnar's record(UFC champ) who is better Heath Herring or Min Soo Kim? This bozo is just another Jose Canseco, you watch him get plummeled in his next fight. Carwin or Velasquez will be the next heavyweight champion.
    Reply »
  • Posted By YoMama
    6 months ago
    Krogan
    I agree that the HW division in the UFC is somewhat weak right now except for JDS, Carwin, Valasques, Mir, and Lesnar. Wait that is 5 fights for him when he gets to the UFC... Then we could call him the best ever! I guess he could fight Nog again too.

    Why would anyone want to leave UFC for f****** StrikeForce dude? That was the dumbest f****** comment I have ever heard. So they could fight Rogers or Overeem? Come on dude.
    Reply »
  • Posted By adobostreak
    6 months ago

    so he doesnt want Fedor to fight somebody who has never tested positive for roids (Overeem), but will fight someone who has tested positive for roids (Barnett)?
    Reply »
  • Posted By GracieHunter0718
    6 months ago

    Screw the roids. Fedor needs to step in, and just beat the piss outta Overeem.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    GracieHunter? I hate your username already
    Reply »
  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    There's no room for crap like this here. Make your point, or shut up, but don't insult this forum and this sport with juvenile BS.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    All i was saying was i dont like his username because i'm a HUGE Gracie fan. I'm not sure i meant what i said the way you thought i meant it.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shanoo
    6 months ago

    this doods angry
    Reply »
  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    "Gracie Hunter" is Sakuraba's nick name. I train under Relson Gracie, but I don't go flipping out when people badmouth them. The Gracies themselves are all gracious people who (most of the time) settle their disputes in the ring rather than through smack talking.
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    Well, i understand what you mean but i wasn't trying to start any problem with him. I didn't think it was a big deal but if you think it is, i can understand.
    Reply »
  • Posted By MAMBA24ILL
    6 months ago

    It's weird that he wouldn't want Fedor to fight for the title in Strikeforce. Whats he want him to fight for?
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    He just wants him to fight bums and UFC rejects.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    You should watch a few more interviews with Fedor, its pretty clear, Fedor fights for the challenge and for the glory of Russia. When they ask him what money means to him all he says is "it allows me to help my friends." they ask "is that all?" he just nods and you can see in his face and eyes that he is being 100% sincere.

    It's something that those of you that are snowed in to the belief that money is everything that matters, will never understand someone like Fedor.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Lowkickdodger
    6 months ago

    Fedor is not fighting bums, he just doesnt fight in the ufc which enslaves the majority of talents. I wish Fedor would go to UFC but the only solution is that dana accepts copromotion with M1 cos this russian guy as Fedor locked up for life.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Krogan
    6 months ago

    I wish all the fighters left the UFC instead so we could have an open market of fighters. All the best fighters fighting in the UFC is a horrible thought.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Shanoo
    6 months ago
    Krogan
    I've read all dumb comments and this has to be the worst one...

    So Open market fighters, how does that change anything, Many fighters fighting in many organizations? Heres how your retarded.

    The market (although growing) for MMA isn't big enough, how many football leagues are there? how many soccer leagues are there........HOW MANY IKEAS are there? It makes no sense to have multiple organizations with the same old fighters fighting the same fights. One grand organization may be alil controlling, but your getting quality fights. Love or hate the UFC, they put 1-2 cards a month, while good fighters are being seen 2-4 times a year. You gotta be 12 or jus retarded and have no business ethic what-so-ever..
    Reply »
  • Posted By 707
    6 months ago

    thank you for explaining that well
    Reply »
  • Posted By Madnessstill
    6 months ago

    I don't really care who he fights, it'll be boring and Fedor nuthuggers will hype him up regardless after he wins.

    FYI, he lost to arona really. He got mounted multiple times which means arona was totally dominant on the ground, he also got cut very very badly. The decision against arona was the SAME NIGHT as when he fought kohsaka or whatever, and kohsaka IMMEDIATELY goes straight for the cut arona gave him and got a stoppage.

    Classic BS decision and politics, dare you to prove me wrong Fedor nuthuggers.
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  • Posted By Madnessstill
    6 months ago

    I don't really care who he fights, it'll be boring and Fedor nuthuggers will hype him up regardless after he wins.

    FYI, he lost to arona really. He got mounted multiple times which means arona was totally dominant on the ground, he also got cut very very badly. The decision against arona was the SAME NIGHT as when he fought kohsaka or whatever, and kohsaka IMMEDIATELY goes straight for the cut arona gave him and got a stoppage.

    Classic BS decision and politics, dare you to prove me wrong Fedor nuthuggers.
    Reply »
  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    Am currently watching the Fedor/Arona fight in another window and will commentate... fight opens, Arona scores takedown and attempts to go to mount but is caught in a half guard guillotine and is struggling to escape... Arona escapes to take Fedors back, Fedor survives a face choke only to get put in Arona's mount... Fedor bumps Arona over, Fedor in Arona's guard, Fedor blows some leg lock attempt... Fedor lands 1 good right and is taken down again,Arona in side control,
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  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    Continuing... (hit the wrong damn button!)... a scramble but arona stays in side control... ENDS ROUND 1. A round fairly dominated by Arona.

    Fedor out striking and stuffing Arona at opening of round 2... so far 3 takedowns stuffed and several strikes landed by Fedor... Arona scores 1 take down but is immediately swept and put into an ankle lock... Arona escapes ankle lock to mount Fedor... Arona does nothing in mount and they are stood up... Arona lands a leg kick then eats a few punches from Fedor...Arona lands another take down but ends up in guillotine again...round 2 ends. A more dominant round by Fedor.

    Round 3 starts with Fedor striking Arona on the way in to another stuffed take down, and goes into a clinch... Arona using some knees and dirty boxing...
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  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    Goddammit Wrong Button Again!!!!!

    ... Fedor continues to stuff Arona's take down attempts...clinch is broken up by ref...good leg kick by Fedor...good left by fedor... another stuffed take down attempt by Arona...Arona looks gassed at this point but lands a good jab, (looks like this jab opened the cut on Fedor's nose) and slowly gets a take down to mount... is stood up pretty quick because Arona has accomplished nothing from mount all fight... another stuffed take down to gorilla-tine attempt by Fedor...Arona turns it into a successful take down...Fedor sweeps Arona and strikes from the top...fight is stood up...Arona tries a take down and round ends in the scramble.

    SO........ one round each and the third is up in the air... Arona had 2 or 3 take downs in rd 3 and a good jab that caused damage. Fedor landed a good kick and left hook, had the only submission attempts, and was the only one to do any thing from the top position.

    I wouldn't call it a BS decision. It was very close and the judges called it for the striker and not the grappler...like they ALWAYS do. I think it is possible to look at it objectively rather than having to resort to hating or nut-hugging.

    Yeah I know these posts were excessive, but I was bored and had too much coffee.
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  • Posted By UndefeatedOfWest
    6 months ago

    very good job ^_^
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  • Posted By UrHype
    6 months ago

    Its good VF understands the roid issue and as I said a million times, theres nothing to gain fighting that moron Alistard.
    I suppose he'll always have nuthugging fans who dont understand the importance of keeping a drug free fight scene.
    Screw them
    Reply »
  • Posted By likesfights
    6 months ago

    so is fedor really going to fight in 2010????? or are they going to keep delaying....shit at this rate fedor will still be undefeated in 2015 and not from fighting...vote weak if you want
    Reply »
  • Posted By comonson
    6 months ago

    you tell em, finkell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STERIODS = NO FEDOR MATCH
    now put that in your Syringe and poke it
    Reply »
  • Posted By a222g
    6 months ago

    If he does fight Barnett i wonder how there going to go about the drug testing?
    Reply »
  • Posted By mons
    6 months ago

    Can someone tell me who else is out there ASIDE from Fedor NOT in the UFC that poses a serious challenge in the HW division?
    Reply »
  • Posted By Hurricane2k
    6 months ago
    .... lol
    Guys come on this is bullshit **** Finkelstein !
    This guy is a ****ing joke realy ..

    he doesnt want Fedor to fight somebody who has never tested positive for roids (Overeem), but will fight someone who has tested positive for roids (Barnett)?

    Fedor and Finkelstein only want to fight people that are ****ing past there prime time or people that a not at his level !
    And thats just a fact ! Werdum? lol Bret Rogers ? lol and now he says after this fight with Werdum he wants to fight Barnett ? thats just sad so in the year 2010 we get to see Fedor fight Barnett + Werdum?

    And then some of you guys still clame fedor to be the ****ing number 1 hw in the world? lol thats just sad haha !

    I think fedor dont wanne fight Overeem sinds he realy has a shot to ko him thats what i think and yes overeem is a Roid Monkey but still alot of other fights are and thats life some use some dont !

    Look what happend here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gJraPajo5Y

    And then look what happend here ..
    This is something i think Fedor dont like
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ue7ownK3DY

    And again iam no ****ing Overeem fan or something but i realy think it could be a nice ****ing fight mutch better then Fedor vs Werdum or Barnett haha !
    Reply »
  • Posted By amscatt
    6 months ago

    I agree... I would rather see Fedor fight the UFC HW's, but people really need to stop writing off Rogers as some kind of fluff match. Rodgers would run through a good portion of the UFC HW division. I'd really like to see him in the UFC as well.
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  • Posted By sarina
    6 months ago

    denk je nu echt dat fedor bang is van overeem ha ha
    dat is een lachertje
    ik ben nederlander maar echt overeem heeft echt geen kans veels te traag die heeft al een paar klappen gehad voor hij ze aan ziet komen
    wwar zou hij toch zo traag van worden?
    Reply »
  • Posted By UnderdogGreatness
    6 months ago

    Vadim Finkelstein looks like Jerry Springer.
    Reply »
  • Posted By comonson
    6 months ago

    OVEREEM'S UPPER BODY IS HUGE COMPAIRED TO HIS LOWER BODY.
    DAT SHIT LOOKS FUNNY
    Reply »
  • Posted By MANOWAR
    6 months ago

    Fedor s belly is also huge compare the the rest of his body.
    Reply »
  • Posted By Rane
    6 months ago

    WTF is going on here!?!? Are we forgetting that there is uncovered talent on the other side of the World regarding HW's? I guarantee you there will be many surprisews to come. Do not just focus on the UFC!
    Reply »

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